I do not believe that it merely has to be a publication. Firstly let me qualify that: I should have said libel and slander. It can be simply a matter of someone making a statement to someone else. If it is proved the statement is false and it is proved that the subject was harmed by the statement then my understanding is that is sufficient. I believe the question becomes proving it was said (obviously it's easier if it's published) and then proving the extent of the harm to ones reputation etc. My past experience, while limited, leads me to believe that even if the press was told "no comment" a story would still be circulated amongst the flock (presumably for damage control). My interpretation from your quote is that there is concern about one of the flock repeating this "damage control story" to the wrong individual and it leading to at least a slander situation.
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"Alberta man brings protest to Georgetown"
by Quotes inhttp://www.northpeel.com/br/gi/news/story/2270645p-2631778c.html .
wednesday, october 13th, 2004 .
alberta man brings protest to georgetown .
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"Alberta man brings protest to Georgetown"
by Quotes inhttp://www.northpeel.com/br/gi/news/story/2270645p-2631778c.html .
wednesday, october 13th, 2004 .
alberta man brings protest to georgetown .
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I can think of one very powerful reason Scully (assuming the quote is true): If they say things publicly and it gets proven at a later date that they lied (presumeably in order to do damage control) they would be open to a libel suit. I read this that they are providing "stories" to the flock of their version (presumably to passify them) and they are afraid it could be repeated publically. To me, it implies they know their "stories" are untrue and they could be open to libel.
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UPDATE: Protest Rally for TUESDAY , October 19 at the Queen's Bench
by Dogpatch inthis is an updated announcement from lawrence hughes:
the court hearing has been moved over one day to tuesday morning, october 19. the protest rally will start at 11:00am.
i figure the protest will end at about 1:00pm.
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Sorry ,but ive thought about this for ages now.There is no way on earth that the Witnesses i know or knew,would allow a known Paedophile to go un-reported and to be free to be around Kids.It wouldnot happen.That means the Elders too.Im not denying abuse happens.Clearly it has happened,but not to the extent some People say. Many testimonials from credible people support this abuse IT, at least to a highly significant extent. Many of us have had different experiences than you IT. You are very fortunate to not have had these types of bad experiences. * Practicing some cut and paste
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heading to the AFF Atlanta conference tomorrow to speak...
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...hope anyone in that neck o woods will drop in and see me!.
kimberlee d.
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UPDATE: Protest Rally for TUESDAY , October 19 at the Queen's Bench
by Dogpatch inthis is an updated announcement from lawrence hughes:
the court hearing has been moved over one day to tuesday morning, october 19. the protest rally will start at 11:00am.
i figure the protest will end at about 1:00pm.
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I agree with your observation about being blinded by hate. I am not sure if I would agree with your obsevation about "many" here but certainly there are some. In fact there are some who are even completely oblivious to their hate. I think it comes with the territory especially in a website forum. But in all fairness I have also met JWs who are blind with hate towards anyone who does not subscribe to their beliefs about God. Many of them are oblivious to their own hate too. That too comes with the territory. Hopefully you will be able to appreciate those here who clearly do not have hate but do have issues with the way they were treated (or in some cases continue to be treated) by either certain JWs, elders or the WT itself.
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UPDATE: Protest Rally for TUESDAY , October 19 at the Queen's Bench
by Dogpatch inthis is an updated announcement from lawrence hughes:
the court hearing has been moved over one day to tuesday morning, october 19. the protest rally will start at 11:00am.
i figure the protest will end at about 1:00pm.
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I am no fan of the Organization ,but i feel they would not (99%of the time any way)knowingly allow Child molesters in their midst.
But according to testimonials they have. What you are saying Fleaman is that your experiences with the WT lead you to believe that these people are all liars. Many of us have had different experiences than you. You are very fortunate to not have had these types of bad experiences. It's good that inpite of that you are here with an open mind at JWD to share your thoughts with others.
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UPDATE: Protest Rally for TUESDAY , October 19 at the Queen's Bench
by Dogpatch inthis is an updated announcement from lawrence hughes:
the court hearing has been moved over one day to tuesday morning, october 19. the protest rally will start at 11:00am.
i figure the protest will end at about 1:00pm.
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The CANADIAN branch has never used their lawyers to defend Pedophiles directly
With all due respect Uzzah, I do not agree with that statement. They may not be lawyer of record for the abuser but if they are providing legal advise whether it is over the phone or through elders to the abuser does that not qualify as offering direct legal help in a defence for the abuser?
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Going to be Article about me being ex-JW...
by Confucious inhey guys, .
some of you know a little bit about me.
i'm a promient jw for years here, because i've been successful in my career.
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I can't tell you what your attitude should be as this is your story. I can tell you that as a reader of your article my attention will be gained if I feel you are being honest and sharing your experience and, as Randy mentioned, if you can inject a dose of humour or be witty it will make for a better read.
If you think this could be an emotional experience and could block your expressions than make some notes in advance on certain points that you think will be discussed.
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Are JWs "Approval Whores"?
by Scully induring a quiet moment at work the other night, i picked up a back issue of o magazine, one of the current quintessentially authoritative journalistic voices of the modern north american woman.
it was the december 2003 issue, and i was intrigued by the title of the article: "the halo effect" which promised to examine the condition of 'being too good' for one's own good.
the preamble contained the phrase "self-sacrificing" and i was immediately zapped by that standard jw buzz-word and the article's suggestion that being "self-sacrificing" is not all it's cracked up to be.. you can read the article here: stop seeking approval.
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That's a very good point to raise Special K. This X-mas thing becomes an issue for everyone sooner or later. I have always celebrated Christmas and it was never an issue until me and my siblings became adults and the family expanded with in-laws etc. Sooner or later you come to a point where you have to weed out who you will visit, who you will simply send a card to and who actually gets a present.
This is what I do (I don't know if it will help but maybe others will have suggestions too):
-send everyone a card that way if you don't get a chance to see them in person your ass is covered.
-don't spread yourself thin on Christmas...keep it to one household (home) and maybe one visit to a nearby relative. Save others visits for another day like the day after Christmas.
-buying presents becomes a major hassle when families expand because it takes alot of time in the stores shopping and at Christmas it's already busy in stores. Mostly, present giving is fun for the children. Once one becomes an adult they realize the most important thing about Christmas is sharing time with loved ones (presents are fun too but they are secondary). Reserve your time for present shopping for the children. For the adults and extended family do a "Chris Kringle" i.e. you put names in a hat and everyone draws only one name. This is a massive savings of time. Also everyone has to agree on a dollar maximum for the Chris Kringle and stick to it. Instead of shopping for 5 or 6 in an extended family you are now shopping for only 1. At first it may feel strange but once you realize that every year you are finished your shopping early and can actually enjoy the season you will love it and everyone else probably will too.
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My Mother's Being Announced in November As OFF The Pioneer List
by minimus inafter 40 years of serving as a regular pioneer and being on the infirm list, the circuit overseer, the po and another elder told her today in a 30 min.
conversation she was going to be announced as no longer pioneering.
the co mostly talked about me, my wife and daughter.
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I don't know if you live close to your Mom but if you do take her out to dinner. Maybe she'll be able to relax and get her mind of the crap for a bit.